I submitted this post to STFU MRAs on Tumblr after the “discussion” Thursday night, with regard to donating extra money for their conference to men’s charities. The quotes are taken from the articles they are linked to. As far as I know, all articles are from the last few months, so they are not old or out-of-date. They have not been edited to say or suggest a particular agenda. The owners of STFU MRAs added the last paragraph where Lundy Bancroft was suggested.
Elam suggested that feminists browse A Voice for Men, so I tried to. And this is what I found:
Women are groomed to enslave men. This is no secret…The problem is not the men, it’s that women want to own them. While Glass acknowledges that so-called toxic men can be completely non-toxic in other relationships, she doesn’t quite make the leap to switching who the victim in the relationship might have been. Given the advances in psychology, she feels that women “can do a lot more now than walk away – you have options. Sometimes a bully needs to be bullied.” Slaves are, after all, an investment. If you can tame your slave it’s better than trading him in.
Most of the money changing hands is done by women with limited and/or poor education. As such, this means that fickle poorly thought out spending habits are what drive the economy; is it any wonder economists run scared when asked what they predict the state of the economy will be in six months; today it’s fifty shades of grey, tomorrow it’s the latest kitchen appliance destined to collect dust after one use, the day after… what?
You go to a department store, and who’s taking your money? Some moderately cute girl who can’t do basic math in her head on a single item (much less multiple items) without the assistance of a virtually flawless machine called “the cash register”, or a calculator back-up. Now, I can give you an anecdote or two about this (one of them very recent), but anyone who “consumed” before the time of the laser scanner will remember this sound (tickatickatickatick tick err… tickatickatickatick tick err… tickaticka…; you get the idea).
Why would a Nice Guy want to date you? What do you have to offer now that you’ve ridden every bad boy in town?
Feminists’ failure to distinguish between great men versus thugs is projection that speaks volumes of their stunted emotional development, and their view of the world in simplistic, two-dimensional terms. Think of how toxic this feminist attitude is to our cultures, how much harm it has caused. With feminism, we are supposed to be ashamed of the men (The Patriarchy) who are responsible for the cultural achievements that make modern, advanced society possible, and we are supposed to make amends to women for all those millennia of patriarchal oppression… all without any reference, of course, to women’s hypergamy, and no reference to the dynamics of provider/provided-for that have always been integral to the workings of most every culture throughout human history.
I think it’s worth pointing out, that Elliot Rodger said rather specifically in his manifesto, “If only one pretty girl had shown some form of attraction to me, the Day of Retribution would never happen.” He also bragged about having $300 sunglasses. I can think of one way Elliot Rodger might have gotten more than one pretty girl to show some form of attraction to him, for the price of a pair of those sunglasses, and that’s legalized prostitution. Feminists who drive so much of the policy agenda in the world however are split on that issue, and as with so many things pertaining to the State, the people who favor more laws tend to win.
Now, it’s absolutely true that men do most of the violence in this world. Be it by nature or nurture, this is how we’ve turned out, and for better or worse this is the situation that we’re in. If you ask me, the effort to change this by encouraging men to behave more like women is how you get guys like Elliot Rodger. He was an effeminate guy who considered himself the “perfect gentleman”. Women predictably didn’t find this attractive at all, the strategy failed miserably, and it drove him out of his mind. This kind of social engineering is unnatural and destructive and easy to predict. In any case, the fact that men do most of the violence in society has upsides and downsides for women.
I didn’t take ANY quotes from comments on the site, just the entries themselves. The comments section over there is even worse.
So, Mr. Elam, I tried to read your site, but it was infuriating and I decided that I would just walk away before I actually became the misandrist that the contributors to your site and it’s/their supporters already believe that I (as a feminist) am.
Thanks for the submission. You should also check out Lundy Bancroft’s article about Mens Right’s groups when you have time.
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