Excuse Me, But Grow Up

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“No woman can call herself free who does not own and control her body. No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother.”

— Margaret Sanger

Oh then good thing…

feels vs facts

facts win.

abhortion, legal=fact.

the huffingtonpost is no longer a valid source of information, as everything they’ve posted has less and less unbiased facts.

some are good, some arent. i’m not entirely sure why they’ve decided to bow down to foolish humans

Fine. You want a different source? How about the AP or Reuters? The first five articles on that tag were from those sources, or are those biased in your opinion?

How about a press release from the Lt. Governor’s office? http://ltgov.alabama.gov/PR/PressRelease.aspx?ID=5122

MONTGOMERY, Alabama (May 24, 2011) – Today, while presiding over the Senate, Lt. Governor Kay Ivey recognized Sen. Greg Reed to bring up SB202 for consideration. After debate, the Senate passed its first pro-life bill in several years.

“History is being made in the Alabama Legislature,” stated Lt. Governor Kay Ivey, “I commend Senator Greg Reed for all of his hard work in making the passage of this bill a reality. The Alabama Legislature is working together to help protect and save the lives of our future generations.”

Senate Bill 202 affirmatively opts the state of Alabama out of those provisions in the new federal Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as “Obamacare,” that allow abortion coverage by participating health insurance plans. This bill prohibits public funds from being used to cover abortions through health care plans operating in Alabama.

“This past November’s election had consequences, and in this case, those positive consequences allowed us to pass the first pro-life bill in years,” said Reed. “The State of Alabama has a constitutional right to opt out of the abortion-funding requirement of ‘Obamacare’ and we did so with this legislation. This is a small step in the right direction of discouraging abortion and saving lives.”

Passage of SB202 set the tone for the day to pass several pro-life bills, including:

SB281, by Senator McGill, will prohibit health insurance coverage of elective abortions unless the insured has paid additional monies for a rider.

SB298, by Senator Allen, makes it unlawful to administer any abortion-inducing drug to a woman without her receiving an exam by a physician and would provide a physician with guidelines to follow in administering any abortion-inducing drugs.

SB301, by Senator Williams, defines the term “persons” as used in the Code of Alabama 1975, as including all humans from the moment of fertilization and implantation in the womb.

SB308, by Senator Scofield, requires a physician to perform an ultrasound, provide verbal explanation of the ultrasound, and display the images to pregnant women before performing an abortion.

All of the pro-life bills passed in the Senate will now move to the House for consideration.

Or how about one from the Governor of Alabama – http://governor.alabama.gov/newsroom/2013/04/governor-bentley-signs-womens-health-and-safety-act:

MONTGOMERY – Governor Robert Bentley on Tuesday signed the Women’s Health and Safety Act, a measure that will improve and strengthen the standards of care at women’s clinics in Alabama.

“As a physician, and as a governor, I am proud to sign this legislation,” Governor Bentley said. “This bill provides appropriate standards of care. It has been endorsed by pro-life groups across Alabama. This is a key piece of legislation in the House Republican Agenda, and I am honored to stand with legislative leaders and sign this bill.”

Governor Bentley was joined by the bill’s sponsors and legislative leadership during a signing ceremony at the State Capitol.

“I am strongly pro-life,” Lieutenant Governor Kay Ivey said. “We can’t ban abortion—that’s a federal issue that’s been confirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court—but at the state level, we can regulate and control unsafe health practices. I support the Legislature’s efforts to restrict the operation of unsafe clinics to help ensure a woman’s health.”

“With the Governor’s signature on the Women’s Health and Safety Act, Republicans are fortifying our efforts to safeguard the health and safety of Alabama women and defend the rights of the unborn,” said Alabama House Speaker Mike Hubbard (R-Auburn). “Since the U.S. Supreme Court unfortunately allows abortion to remain legal, this law is imperative to ensure that the procedure is performed in the most safe and healthy environment possible.”

“The women of Alabama deserve the highest possible standard of healthcare, particularly at such a difficult time,” said the bill’s House sponsor, Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin (R-Indian Springs Village). “If an abortion clinic is truly dedicated to providing adequate care, ensuring dependable safeguards and putting patients’ needs before profits, it will embrace this legislation rather than oppose it. For far too long, Alabama has had more health regulations in place to protect your cat or dog at a vet clinic than it does for a woman receiving an abortion; this law will correct that shameful disparity.”

The Women’s Health and Safety Act will require clinics that provide abortions to meet the same facility standards as ambulatory care centers. The legislation also calls for doctors who provide abortions to adhere to stronger standards, including having admitting privileges at local hospitals. The bill also includes strong enforcement procedures for doctors or clinics that fail to comply with the new health and safety standards.

“I applaud Governor Bentley for signing this legislation to provide reasonable and medically-appropriate health and safety standards for women’s health clinics,” Senate President Pro Tem Del Marsh (R-Anniston) said. “These patients deserve to be treated in a safe environment and in a facility capable of responding to medical emergencies should the need arise.”

“Even though I continue to be disappointed that the U.S. Supreme Court has allowed abortion to remain the law of the land, we can take these measures to protect the health of women,” said Senator Scott Beason (R-Gardendale). “With the signing of this important law, we are taking steps to implement a comprehensive set of safety standards that will ensure that women’s health clinics are providing an appropriate level of care.”

Still not good enough? How about the summaries of the Legislative Acts of the Regular Session 2012 and Special Session?

Act 2012-261, HB493, provides that a physician is not required to make a determination of the probable post-fertilization age of an unborn child prior to any procedure other than an abortion. The act specifies that the reporting requirements for fetal deaths and pregnancy terminations shall be construed to require a report of the probable post-fertilization age only for abortion procedures. The act also provides that the term “abortion,” when used in the Code of Alabama 1975, is not to be construed to include any procedure to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, unless the statutory provision or rule expressly provides otherwise.

EFFECTIVE DATE: April 30, 2012.

Act 2012-405, SB10, is the Federal Abortion Mandate Opt Out Act. The act specifies that the State of Alabama affirmatively opts out of allowing abortion coverage by exchange participating health plans.

EFFECTIVE DATE: August 1, 2012.

And the birth control/improper sex-ed thing I mentioned in that last post? Via ALA CODE § 16-40A-2:

(a) Any program or curriculum in the public schools in Alabama that includes sex education or the human reproductive process shall, as a minimum, include and emphasize the following:

(1) Abstinence from sexual intercourse is the only completely effective protection against unwanted pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, and acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) when transmitted sexually.

(2) Abstinence from sexual intercourse outside of lawful marriage is the expected social standard for unmarried school-age persons.

(b) Course materials and instruction that relate to sexual education or sexually transmitted diseases should be age-appropriate.

(c) Course materials and instruction that relate to sexual education or sexually transmitted diseases should include all of the following elements:

(1) An emphasis on sexual abstinence as the only completely reliable method of avoiding unwanted teenage pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

(2) An emphasis on the importance of self-control and ethical conduct pertaining to sexual behavior.

(3) Statistics based on the latest medical information that indicate the degree of reliability and unreliability of various forms of contraception, while also emphasizing the increase in protection against pregnancy and protection against sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV and AIDS infection, which is afforded by the use of various contraceptive measures.

(4) Information concerning the laws relating to the financial responsibilities associated with pregnancy, childbirth, and child rearing.

(5) Information concerning the laws prohibiting sexual abuse, the need to report such abuse, and the legal options available to victims of sexual abuse.

(6) Information on how to cope with and rebuff unwanted physical and verbal sexual exploitation by other persons.

(7) Psychologically sound methods of resisting unwanted peer pressure.

(8) An emphasis, in a factual manner and from a public health perspective, that homosexuality is not a lifestyle acceptable to the general public and that homosexual conduct is a criminal offense under the laws of the state.

(9) Comprehensive instruction in parenting skills and responsibilities, including the responsibility to pay child support by non-custodial parents, the penalties for non-payment of child support, and the legal and ethical responsibilities of child care and child rearing

That law goes on to say:

Conduct that is illegal under state or federal law, including but not limited to, illegal use or distribution of controlled substances, under-age alcohol use or distribution, sexual intercourse imposed by means of force, or sexual actions which are otherwise illegal, shall not be encouraged or proposed to public school children in such a manner as to indicate that they have a legitimate right to decide or choose illegal conduct.

It really isn’t that hard to find facts regarding the State of Alabama’s crusade to make it as difficult as possible for the women of the state to end up having abortions or of denying its citizens proper access to sex education & teaching about birth control.

If you think that “feels” don’t impact the way of life of citizens/residents of the state of Alabama, then you must not be very familiar with our state’s history. When it was already unconstitutional to treat non-whites as second class citizens, this state was still doing so because it felt that God had made the colors differently and that segregation and anti-miscegenation laws were all part of what God wanted.

You see, feeling that someone is acting immoral gives people in this region a good excuse to do some pretty shitty things. Cross-burnings, lynchings, and other forms of violence can be used against people who do things that folks around here “feel” is wrong. And even if they aren’t actually used against a person, a person can still be threatened with these things. Hate and oppression are still very much alive in this little corner of the world, so even when things like abortion and birth control are supposed to be accessible to people, somehow this state manages to figure out a way to make it even harder to access.

That is why I find it abhorrent that you think that just because abortion is legal that that means women are allowed to have them. If the world were perfect, then yeah, that might be true, but we all know this world isn’t perfect.

lol alabama, cause alabama represents all of america

women ARE allowed to have them

and nothing says you cant go to another state have it done and drive back

money? so abortions are free? or you want an elective surgery free?

unless keeping the baby would actually damage your health, it’s elective. so your argument must be because you gots ta pay.

so for the cost of gas or a bus ticket to go 3 hours out of alabama to get an abortion, plus the cost of your elective surgery is all your out.

once again that’s feels your arguing with THE MINORITY IS DOING IT SO EVERYONE FEELS DIS WAY!!!!! WAAAAAAA

get your head out of your ass

Excuse me, but grow up.

In America, women are supposed to be allowed to have them. And like I have tried to get across to you, that isn’t always the case. I never said that Alabama represents every state in the union. If we’re going to argue in generalizations like that, then why not say that safe, legal abortions are not accessible and movements for their access are necessary because there are many nations where they are still illegal. There are many places where the need for their access and for so many other changes in sexual health policies need to happen.

As for your idea that people should have to drive 3 hours to get an abortion easily:

Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Tennessee are, in various parts of the state, within your 3 hour limit. Each of these states has restrictive laws regarding abortion. They aren’t the only ones.

The numbers on legal restrictions for all 50 states and the District of Columbia:

  • MUST BE PERFORMED BY A LICENSED PHYSICIAN: 39
  • MUST BE PERFORMED IN A HOSPITAL IF AT: 20
  • SECOND PHYSICIAN MUST PARTICIPATE IF AT: 18
  • PROHIBITED EXCEPT IN CASES OF LIFE OR HEALTH ENDANGERMENT AT: 41
  • PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BANNED: 19
  • PUBLIC FUNDING, FUNDS ALL/MEDICALLY NECESSARY ABORTIONS: 17
  • PUBLIC FUNDING LIMITED TO LIFE ENDANGERMENT, RAPE AND INCEST: 32+DC
  • PRIVATE INSURANCE COVERAGE LIMITED: 8
  • PROVIDERS MAY REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE, INDIVIDUAL: 46
  • PROVIDERS MAY REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE, INSTITUTION: 43
  • MANDATED COUNSELING INCLUDES INFO ON – BREAST CANCER LINK: 5
  • MANDATED COUNSELING INCLUDES INFO ON – FETAL PAIN: 12
  • MANDATED COUNSELING INCLUDES INFO ON – NEGATIVE PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS: 8
  • WAITING PERIOD (IN HOURS) AFTER COUNSELING: 26
  • PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT REQUIRED FOR MINORS: 39

The required counseling by states includes faulty information. The National Cancer Institute has basically said that the breast cancer link is hokum. The doctor that pro-life groups cite on fetal pain has said that their conclusion is hokum. And the mental health effects? Well, the APA says the risks are no higher for a woman have a first-trimester abortion to end up with a mental illness than for a woman who delivers the unplanned pregnancy to full-term.

So, yeah, those are the facts regarding abortion access in this country. Elsewhere, though, well, let’s take a look at a map:

Well, look at that, worldwide there are issues regarding access to abortion. So what does that say about your argument?

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Janet Morris

I'm from Huntsville, Alabama. I've got as many college credits as a doctorate candidate, and the GPA of some of them, too. I have a boss by the name of Amy Pond. She's a dachshund. My parents both grew up in Alabama.